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Joe Rogan Says Trump Knows ‘Something’ About UFOs … I Agree: He Knows They’re Top-Secret Pentagon Weapons

More UFO-related comments from Joe Rogan, as reported in this HuffPost article.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-rogan-trump-ufo-secrets-drone-sightings_n_676d7b4ee4b0b8149e959568

Here are some relevant bits from the article, bold and in quotes:

“When I confronted Mr. Trump [during our interview], he was very cagey, very cagey…He didn’t tell me shit,” Rogan said Tuesday. “It was basically like neither confirm nor deny.”

“I think he knows something, I [just] don’t think he’s interested,” the former “Fear Factor” host added.

Yeah, I agree, and I thank Joe Rogan for keeping the subject alive. If anyone knows the value of protecting trade secrets, it’s Trump.

But I don’t think he’s keeping UFO secrets because of anything having to do with space aliens. I think he’s keeping secrets about UFOs because he knows that they are top-secret Pentagon weapons.

I guess a central problem is that the people traditionally driving the whole UFO bus have always been those who are convinced that it’s E.T. … Spielberg, Leslie Kean, a whole slew of “ufologists” … there has never been a diversity of thought on this subject.

The national conversation has always been dominated by the E.T. hypothesis. It has never been centered on the terrestrial hypothesis — the idea that the UFOs have been top-secret U.S. tech going all the way back to Kenneth Arnold’s seminal encounter in 1947.

For whatever reason, people can’t accept that concept. But they’re just fine with E.T. traveling trillions of miles from another solar system only to forget how to land, crashing in the desert, or for some godforsaken reason hanging out over U.S. military training ranges and the like.

The point is, people are either fully ensconced in the E.T. hypothesis, or they just dismiss the entire subject as nonsense. There is no middle ground.

Then, you have what appears to be state-sponsored disinformation: former military officials writing books about their alleged first-hand encounters with E.T., etc.

Of course, these claims can never be verified, and that’s the genius of it. It’s always: Well, I could tell you more, but that’s classified.

But then why say anything at all, if you were so concerned about revealing classified information? Why say anything?  It makes no sense.

Also, regarding the whole New Jersey drone flap: If there’s anything to it at all, chances are it has something to do with the Pentagon.

Just like all UFO flaps of yore, the sightings will suddenly stop and we’ll never receive any definitive information from the government. People will joke about it, forget about it, and that will be the end of it.

Perhaps it was some sort of military exercise and officials have gathered all the data they need. Meanwhile, people started seeing all sorts of things in the sky that had nothing to do with the initial exercise: planes, hobbyist drones, balloons, etc., etc., which is typical of past UFO flaps. This confuses the media, and journalists invariably pay more attention to these false reports than the hundred or so sightings that actually had some merit.

Is this by design?

Anyway, maybe it was nothing at all. But either way we’ll never know, and that’s how it always is.

So, I agree with Joe Rogan: Trump knows something.

But, no, it’s not space aliens.

Interesting Article in The Debrief about NSF Meeting Touching on Advanced Aerospace Tech

So, interesting article in The Debrief about a recent meeting hosted by the National Science Foundation focusing on advanced aerospace technology.

Reading between the lines, it seems that people are seriously considering the possibility that advanced propulsion systems do exist and that we need policies addressing said advanced propulsion tech.

It would also seem at least possible that people are addressing the likelihood that mankind’s reach has exceeded his grasp, and that this does pose a potential problem. At least, that’s one of my takeaways.

I guess one serious dilemma is that we can’t devise policies if we don’t officially recognize that we have this technology. I mean, if Congress doesn’t have a need to know, how can Congress create policies about these technologies?

Anyway, here is a link to the article … excellent piece by writer Chrissy Newton.

https://thedebrief.org/national-science-foundation-hosts-interagency-meeting-on-disruptive-technology-with-uap-in-focus

Here are some of the most relevant bits, from my POV, at least, bolded and in quotes:

“Others in attendance included Rhodium Scientific founder Olivia Holzhaus,  former fighter pilot and Americans for Safe Aerospace co-founder Ryan Graves, and Jay Stratton, the former Director of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF), who shared perspectives on government engagement with UAP research.

“Ryan Graves, who characterized the meeting as being “70 percent edge and deep technology and 30 percent UAP,” said he was there primarily to discuss his personal experiences involving the anomalous phenomena his organization promotes awareness of.

“ ‘I was there to talk about my experiences, both as a pilot and as someone who had to interact with these things (UAPs) for a period of time,’ Graves told The Debrief.

“ ‘I had a long career at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works, where I was a Senior Technical Fellow and led the Revolutionary Technology organization, focusing on developing and transitioning breakthrough technologies,’ ” says Charles Chase, Co-Founder of UnLAB. “This experience gave me good insight into advanced technologies, military systems, and threats.’ ”

For Chase, the most promising disruptive technologies are those that he says can reduce conflict and its drivers by creating abundance.

“ ‘Falling behind could mean that disruptive technologies are developed without regard for peaceful applications, increasing global instability,’ ” Chase said. ‘Without leadership, the U.S. might lose its ability to shape the ethical use of advanced technologies, leaving them vulnerable to exploitation by others.’

“However, government policy plays a critical role in how edge science evolves. Determining what comes first—policy adjustments or technological advancements—remains a crucial part of the equation.

“ ‘Investing in edge science, or what I call frontier science, is essential to maintaining national security, driving economic growth, and giving the U.S the ability to help shape the future by using technological advancements for good,’ ” said Jay Stratton, former director of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) and Chief Operating Officer with QuantumFrontier, LLC, in a statement provided to The Debrief.

“Often, policies are created retroactively to manage new developments within culture and society, such as the internet, AI, social media, or nuclear weapons. Ideally, governments would anticipate cultural market trends and scientific and technological advancements to design proactive policies supporting national defense and cultural and economic goals.

“ ‘ But the problem with policy is that you can be wrong, right?’ ” Graves says.

“ ‘I expect there’ll be more,’ Graves told The Debrief.

“Indeed, as governments and private technology companies gear up for the new year, a wave of similar edge-science meetings and summits is already on the horizon. Several groundbreaking discussions are scheduled before the end of the year, and even more are slated for 2025.”

So, looking forward to more on this extremely important topic in the near future!

Rep. Nancy Mace is Right When She Suggests the Pentagon is Hiding Exotic Propulsion Tech

Finally, we have a member of Congress acknowledging something fundamental about the entire UFO saga in this country: That the Pentagon is likely hiding the existence of top-secret propulsion technologies, even from the president and members of Congress.

Here are the most relevant comments from an article this morning (Nov. 27, 2024) in the Washington Times newspaper, in bold print and quotations (Also, here is a link to the article, https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/nov/27/rep-nancy-mace-ufo-secrecy-keeping-president-unite/)

“At a minimum, publicly available Pentagon information strongly suggests there is incredible aerospace technology being fielded today that the American public, and even most members of Congress, are unaware of.

‘I’m not saying share everything. Maybe there are weapons programs we’re testing that it’s a fair thing we don’t want the American public to know about,” Ms. Mace said.

In a worst-case scenario, Ms. Mace said, individuals or departments within the Pentagon, intelligence community and other corners of the government could be keeping secrets from the White House itself.

‘Are they keeping the president of the United States in the dark?’ she said.”

Anyway, I’ve been saying this for years, and it’s a point of view we might call the “terrestrial hypothesis” for UFOs, and it goes something like this:

  • The UFOs are not extraterrestrial and they have never been. Instead, the Pentagon has made a series of astonishing propulsion breakthroughs going all the way back to the first important sighting, that of Kenneth Arnold in 1947.
  • Instead of jumping automatically to the extraterrestrial hypothesis, we should first fully entertain and explore the terrestrial hypothesis. So, for example, the “Tic Tac” object encountered in 2004 by Navy pilots over a U.S. military training range, is, in fact, a U.S. military platform. That’s why it was observed there. Furthermore, the fact that this encounter took place over a training range would suggest that these are not “experimental aircraft,” but operational platforms. I would also propose that the Pentagon has likely developed various top-secret platforms, entirely unknown to the public and developed over the past seven decades or so, thanks to a burgeoning “black budget” that keeps these programs hidden from Congress.
  • Logically, then, the terrestrial hypothesis would suggest that a whole bizarre inventory of encounters involving U.S. military personnel and civilians alike have always been top-secret Pentagon technologies known only to a small circle with a “need to know.” Everything from those UFOs that disabled nuclear missile launch systems back in the 1960s, to the huge triangular thing observed over the Hudson Valley in the 1980s, the “Phoenix lights” in 1997, another huge triangular thing encountered by police officers in rural Illinois in 2000, the flying disc over Chicago O’Hare in 2006, the Tic Tacs, etc., etc.
  • Moreover, the performance characteristics of these objects were such that there is one overarching likelihood suggested by this historical record of sightings: The Pentagon has developed exotic and highly unconventional propulsion systems that it has hidden from the public all these years.
  • Meanwhile, it certainly appears that there has been a disinformation effort to confuse people, and the media, about the whole subject of UFOs, publishing books by former military personnel who claim to have encountered extraterrestrials. It’s a legacy that in my opinion goes back many years and includes The Day After Roswell, published in 1997. (If you are interested, please read my review of The Day After Roswell, which I regard as a masterpiece of disinformation, here, https://emilvenere.com/files/138490884.pdf)
  • As to why the Pentagon would sometimes be flying these weapons over populated areas, perhaps it’s real-world training, a “living lab” to perfect tactics and to study how well they perform against state-of-the-art, white-world technologies like F-16s. There have been examples of military training exercises taking place over populated areas. This excellent article in The War Zone documents one such exercise over Los Angeles: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38753/those-mysterious-gray-helicopters-were-landing-on-multiple-downtown-la-rooftops-last-night
  • Anyway, this terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs leads to many follow-up questions and concerns, chief among them: Is there a shadow space program that runs parallel to NASA and the Space Force that is far more capable than either of those entities? If so, how far have we gone? Do we have military bases in deep space?  Are any of these top-secret platforms nuclear-powered?

At any rate, bravo Rep. Nancy Mace, bravo! Better late to the party than not at all!

AARO Physics Brainiac Says He Still Can’t Explain Some UFOs … This Is Getting Ridiculous …

Reading this article from CBS News about the most recent UFO report from the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the cynic in me says something isn’t quite right here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pentagon-solves-1-ufo-mystery-still-probing-other-cases/

Interesting comments from Ryan Graves. He notes that, although AARO showed the UFO in the “GOFAST” video wasn’t going fast, they never explained what the heck it was. Hmmm …

And, regarding those 21 still-unsolved cases in the report, the AARO director, a brainiac physicist and engineer, says he’s stumped.

Maybe the reason he is stumped is because these are all top-secret Pentagon weapons and AARO doesn’t have a need to know. Even if Dr. Kosloski did know, he wouldn’t be permitted to divulge this because people go to prison for revealing top-secret U.S. weapons to the world at large.

Just saying.

What if the UFOs are all ultra-classified U.S. weapons? No government agency including AARO would be able to reveal this, so isn’t it a bit ridiculous to expect them to?

A Veteran Area 51 Observer Sees No Aliens There, Yet Further Evidence That UFOs Are Not Extraterrestrial

Like most tabloid fare, this article about veteran Area 51 researcher Joerg Arnu contains very little useful information. Yet, it is important because Arnu expresses his opinion that the base does not harbor extraterrestrial technologies. The article appeared recently in The Sun newspaper.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31060141/area-51-fbi-new-weapons/

Area 51 has been central to alien conspiracy theories over the years. It is crucial to unfounded claims that the U.S. government is hiding technologies captured from crashed alien spacecraft. In fact, you could argue that without space aliens at Area 51, the whole connection between UFOs and extraterrestrials falls apart.

If anyone were to detect evidence of E.T. at Area 51, you would think it would have been Arnu, who has dedicated decades to pursuing the truth about what goes on at the base.

Here are some relevant excerpts from The Sun article:

“While Arnu believes the base primarily focuses on military technology – he respects others may have different interpretations.

“He said: ‘Who am I to say that my opinion is the right one?‘

“I think it’s military, but the alien people think there are 21 underground levels of torture facilities for aliens …

“From his analysis of hundreds of satellite images and his visits to the secret site, Arnu believes the government is developing cutting-edge stealth aircraft, advanced drones, and experimental weaponry – that could revolutionise modern warfare.

“Over his years of research, Arnu has observed several indications that cutting-edge military technologies are being developed at Area 51.“

Well, there you have it. The UFOs are still not E.T.

Elon Musk is correct about UFOs: They aren’t E.T., they have always just been the Pentagon

I couldn’t agree more with Elon Musk about UFOs, in comments he made to Tucker Carlson and reported in this New York Post article.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/09/us-news/elon-musk-reveals-his-thoughts-on-ufo-sightings-in-the-us-with-tucker-carlson/

Here is the nut graph from the Post article: “The tech mogul claims that the government is likely regularly testing out ‘new aircraft, new missiles, and things’ that are classified at such a high level that even those high up in the chain of command in the US military may not be aware (they) are being tested.”

It also seems like he’s onto something with this observation, as reported in the New York Post article: “He argued that the government would villainize aliens if it knew of their existence to easily green-light military spending.”

Anyway, what this all means is that it’s high time that we started to seriously entertain the “terrestrial hypothesis” for UFOs, and it goes something like this:

1) The UFOs are not extraterrestrial, and they have never been. Instead, the Pentagon has made a series of astonishing technological breakthroughs in propulsion going all the way back to the first important UFO sighting, that of Kenneth Arnold in 1947. These technologies are so unconventional they could easily be mistaken for something from another planet.

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, former head of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), has alluded to this possibility in his writings and statements. He and AARO’s official UFO report, which reviews sightings and encounters since 1945, have unequivocally stated that witnesses, including members of the military, have unwittingly observed top-secret U.S. weapons and have mistaken these systems for extraterrestrial visitation.

Logically, then, the terrestrial hypothesis would suggest that a whole bizarre inventory of encounters involving U.S. military personnel and civilians alike have always been top-secret Pentagon technologies known only to a small circle of people with the appropriate clearances. Everything from those UFOs that disabled nuclear missile launch systems back in the 1960s, to the huge triangular thing observed over the Hudson Valley in the 1980s, the “Phoenix lights” in 1997, another huge triangular thing encountered by police officers in rural Illinois in 2000, the flying disc over Chicago O’Hare in 2006, the “Tic Tac” encountered by U.S. Navy pilots in 2004, etc.

Moreover, the performance characteristics of these objects were such that there is one overarching likelihood suggested by this historical record of sightings: The Pentagon has developed exotic and highly unconventional propulsion systems that it has hidden from the public all these years.

This terrestrial hypothesis for UFOs leads to many follow-up questions and concerns, chief among them: Is there a shadow space program that runs parallel to NASA and the Space Force that is far more capable than either of those entities? If so, how far have we gone? Do we have military bases in deep space? Are any of these top-secret platforms nuclear-powered?

Meanwhile, it certainly appears that there has been a disinformation effort to confuse people, and the media, about the whole subject of UFOs — various tales by former military personnel who claim to have encountered extraterrestrials. It’s a legacy that in my opinion goes back many years and includes The Day After Roswell, published in 1997.

(If you are interested, please read my review of The Day After Roswell, which I regard as a masterpiece of disinformation, here, https://emilvenere.com/files/138490884.pdf)

So, I would argue that you have opposing forces working against each other. You have AARO conducting legitimate investigations into UFOs, but then you have other elements, some of them possibly even within government, working to promote disinformation, contradicting AARO.

Why? Because as soon as you entangle the entire subject within the intellectual morass of space aliens you relegate the whole story to the fringe. Books and other media are carefully designed to confuse people, especially journalists, so that they’ll dismiss the whole business of UFOs as nonsense and won’t start to wonder whether it’s been the Pentagon all along that’s been flying these things.

Pentagon’s Former Top UFO Hunter Confirms to Scientific American that Many Sightings Represent U.S. Tech ‘Edge’ Over Adversaries, and We Should ‘Take Some Comfort in That.’

There are some nuggets of news in this interesting interview in Scientific American with the Pentagon’s former top UFO hunter, Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/the-governments-former-ufo-hunter-has-a-lot-to-say

My main takeaway is that Dr. Kirkpatrick confirmed, again, that many UFO sightings, even those by experienced military aviators, are not encounters with space aliens at all, but top-secret U.S. military tech. He also says these objects likely represent a technological “edge” over our adversaries.

Here are some of his key comments, in exchanges with journalist Dan Vergano, in brackets and bolded:

[Vergano: It’s fair to say that you had access to all the classified world that people have pointed to before as hiding some sort of program like this in the past, and you looked there, and you found no evidence of this story that the government has somehow been sitting on aliens for the last 60-plus years.

Kirkpatrick: That’s right. So everything that people have pointed to, we went and investigated and found no evidence to support that. Again, a lot of these things are real R&D or real state-of- the-art programs, not extraterrestrial, but it is completely understandable why someone who did not know that would draw that conclusion.

Vergano: You know, there’s been a lot of concern that excessive classification is playing a role here, that people can’t even knock down these claims. Is that a fair complaint, or how would you describe that? Like, you can’t tell somebody that they didn’t see something they’re not to see because you’re not allowed to talk about it. Has that been a factor here?

Kirkpatrick: Uh, in some instances, yes, obviously, because if somebody inadvertently got access to something or had unauthorized access to something, you can’t go and explain to them everything about it. And so that’s where you get into another issue of who actually has access to that information on the Hill. Most people don’t understand [that] congressional members don’t all get access to everything.

Vergano: Is there anything you’d say to the more general reader, like, who thinks, “Okay, well, people aren’t talking about UFOs—the government must know something,” I mean, like, who maybe are maybe more amenable to, like, a reasonable argument?

Kirkpatrick: Well, what I would say is that the government spends a lot of time and effort developing advanced technology for a variety of reasons. Some of this is just people having observed things or seen things or got access to things that they shouldn’t have—that they don’t understand. And just because they don’t understand it, they seem to leap to “it must be extraterrestrial,” as opposed to, well, it could just be maybe the United States has an edge. So I would take some comfort in that.]

So, there you have it, further confirmation that many UFOs are top-secret U.S. weapons.

But doesn’t this inject a dose of irony into the whole UFO conversation, since the government’s own UFO investigations have inadvertently revealed the existence of top-secret U.S. platforms?

I also feel that we are dancing around the eight-hundred-pound gorilla in the room: the flying “Tic Tac”  encountered by U.S. military pilots, which seemingly defied the laws of physics. This encounter was in 2004, so I think we can rule out that it was our adversaries. We would surely have known by now that China or Russia had made this kind of quantum leap in propulsion technology.

Therefore, if it’s not E.T., and it’s not our adversaries, that means the U.S. military has made a quantum leap in propulsion technology.

This seems kind of important … just saying …

Washington Post UFO column fails to ask: What if it’s not ET?

A column about UFOs in the Washington Post asks the familiar question, what if we are being visited by ET?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/04/01/we-need-talk-about-ufos-again/

Perhaps the more interesting question might be, what if it’s not ET at all? The Pentagon never intended to release the now-famous Tic Tac UFO videos and only did so after they were leaked. I propose an entirely different scenario: The UFOs are ours. Not “experimental aircraft,” but fully operational platforms. The reason we are seeing them so frequently around U.S. military facilities, especially during training missions, is that they are in training themselves. They are training for the next war. If this scenario were true, that would mean the recent investigations, first detailed by the New York Times in 2017, have unwittingly exposed a Pentagon program. Curiously, we see that Sen. Rubio recently proclaimed these UFOs are penetrating sensitive military airspace, seemingly at will. He claims these are not of the U.S. military and that they could be ET, or even our geopolitical rivals. But then in the same breath he says we have no worries …  huh? You mean to tell me that if the U.S. military knew its airspace was being penetrated  — even at times dominated — by invaders from space or elsewhere that there would not be more of a sense of urgency about the whole matter? Instead, Sen. Rubio tells us the much-anticipated UFO report will be late and that it won’t reach any hard conclusions … that seems mighty suspicious to me.